Ian Talley: The military intelligence was able to hack one of these more sophisticated attack drones, surveillance and missile deploying drones, hack it and then fly it and land it intact. But recently, the Ukrainians got a break in trying to understand where the drones came from.
Kate Linebaugh: The Ukrainian military wanted to get proof that Iran was supplying Russia with drones and getting that proof wasn't easy, because many of these are Kamikaze drones, meaning they blow up on impact. But both Moscow and Tehran officials said that, "No, no, no, these aren't Iranian. Ian Talley: The Russians said, "No, no, no, these aren't Iranian drones," even though the Western officials were talking about the delivery of these drones and the concern about the Iranian drones, because there had been a budding building relationship between Tehran and Moscow. In the last decade, Iran has developed one of the most powerful drone programs in the world, and it has used its drones in hundreds of attacks around the Middle East. Kate Linebaugh: The Ukrainian military and Western officials suspected that the drones were coming from Iran. I mean, with four bombs, you can do a lot of damage. Kate Linebaugh: That will deliver our Amazon packages? Ian Talley: We're not talking about the small ones that you see people flying at the beach and up in the mountains. What kind of drones are we talking about here? Kate Linebaugh: When Ukrainian officials noticed Russia launching attack drones earlier this year, they were surprised because Russia isn't known for being able to make those models. When the West shuts a country off from global finance and exports and trade, then it directly affects Russia's ability to fund itself and to build the weapons of war that it needs to prosecute the war in Ukraine. Ian Talley: The Western sanctions, you're talking about two-thirds of the global economy who joined this, and much of the world's most advanced technology, computer chips, lasers, et cetera, is derived from the West. Kate Linebaugh: That's our colleague Ian Talley. Ian Talley: Russia is an isolated country right now. After Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, Western nations hit back with heavy sanctions aimed at stifling Russia's economy and crippling its military. Coming up on the show, the complicated origins of Russia's drones. They're trying to figure out the answer to a question, where is Russia getting its drones? Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. Kate Linebaugh: That's Olena Tregub, who runs a nonprofit that's currently working with the Ukrainian military. All this was done with the very significant help of this particular drones. Now, we made the makeshift cover stations for people to charge phones and to heat themselves. Olena Tregub: It's very critical situation when in winter we might have a huge humanitarian crisis. Ukrainian officials estimate that Russia has launched more than 300 drone attacks in recent weeks, inflicting major destruction across the country. This time, the capital hit with explosive drones.
Speaker 3: A wave of deadly drone of strikes, which targeted the capital and cities in the Eastern Sumy region. There are also reports of casualties in other Ukrainian cities and towns. Speaker 2: Four buildings in the capital hit. A new Russian missile and drone attacks taking out power plants across Ukraine. Speaker 1: We turn now to the war in Ukraine. Kate Linebaugh: For weeks, Russia has been hammering Ukraine from the air. This version may not be in its final form and may be updated. This transcript was prepared by a transcription service.
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